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Jack

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No more Kennedys, No more Dems to fill a vacant senate seat in Mass. The tide is turning and it will be red! Onward we go into 2010 and stop the healthcare madness, We saw this happen in NJ and VA. Its about to happen again and not just in Mass.
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No more Kennedys, No more Dems to fill a vacant senate seat in Mass. The tide is turning and it will be red! Onward we go into 2010 and stop the healthcare madness, We saw this happen in NJ and VA. Its about to happen again and not just in Mass.


Give me a break!  Can anyone say Diebolt? 
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   I know that Republicans are gloating over a Teabagger winning Ted Kennedy's seat in Massachusetts; however that boastful attitude maybe short sighted. The same can be said of those Democrats who would put the full blame on Martha Coakley, there is more at hand here than one will see in the conservative media. My response to these arrogant Teabaggers is to tell them that the Democrat won and watch their dismay. When questioned I explain that the Democrat won with 47% of the vote to the 52% of the Republican. Without thinking these Teabaggers will be quick with their insults towards the intelligence of anyone who thinks that 47 is a higher number than 52. This opens the door to getting them to admit that 59 Democratic Senators are more than 41 Republicans and with that progressive policies still can win.

   As a matter of fact this maybe what is needed to give the Progressives a kick in the seat. For far too long we have been playing by the Republican's rules and it is time to say enough. First they told us that any Judges that Mr. Bush nominated had to have a yes or no vote and filibusters were not allowed. Then when the Senate turned Democratic the Republicans filibuster everything, saying that all bills had to have 60 votes to pass. I don't know which was worse, the arrogance of the Republicans or that the Democrats went along with it trying to pass everything with 60 votes. This meant that everything had to be watered down to get the more conservative Senators to sign on. As a result Progressives have been disappointed to see everything that they voted for perverted and Conservatives are against anything Democratic.

   What the Democrats need to do is to put an end to the filibuster and pass everything with a 50 plus one majority. This could end the need for courting the Conservative Senators and pass the Progressive policies that the Nation badly needs. We could even pass a single payer health care bill and a jobs bill that would safe the economy. What this Republican win could actually do is to propel the Democratic Party into big wins in 2010 and in 2012 we could see Ted Kennedy's Senate seat return to Democratic hands.


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   What the Democrats need to do is to put an end to the filibuster and pass everything with a 50 plus one majority. This could end the need for courting the Conservative Senators and pass the Progressive policies that the Nation badly needs. We could even pass a single payer health care bill and a jobs bill that would safe the economy. What this Republican win could actually do is to propel the Democratic Party into big wins in 2010 and in 2012 we could see Ted Kennedy's Senate seat return to Democratic hands.


You said it!  I'm all for having a good robust debate and plenty of time to read what is in a bill, but this garbage of blocking the democratic process is another thing.  It would be funny to see the likes of Limbaugh red face at all the progressive bills being passed.  I can just see Glenn Beck speechless at the Democratic success!

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Hi Donna, funny how these Teabaggers don't even know the Constitution that they are scream about.  I agree with Demartman, forgetting that old useless filibuster is the best thing for the progressive movement.  I and all my Friends are stick of see the President and the Democratic Senate have to move everything to the right just to get that 60th vote.  Now, just blow it up and we have enough Progressive Senators to pass all the Progressive bills we could want.  I think that idea scares the Teabaggers, because just when they think that they are going to when we change the rules!
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    It may be meaningless, but I get a little boost when I see the News commentators saying the same thing that I said only a day earlier. I tuned into MSNBC tonight and heard just that. The only question is whether the Senate Democrats will have the back-bone to either end or limit the filibuster.
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You guys can say what ever you like, Kennedy's seat still went to a Republican.  If I were a Dem I would be worried!

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You guys can say what ever you like, Kennedy's seat still went to a Republican.  If I were a Dem I would be worried!


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   I know that Republicans are gloating over a Teabagger winning Ted Kennedy's seat in Massachusetts; however that boastful attitude maybe short sighted. The same can be said of those Democrats who would put the full blame on Martha Coakley, there is more at hand here than one will see in the conservative media. My response to these arrogant Teabaggers is to tell them that the Democrat won and watch their dismay. When questioned I explain that the Democrat won with 47% of the vote to the 52% of the Republican. Without thinking these Teabaggers will be quick with their insults towards the intelligence of anyone who thinks that 47 is a higher number than 52. This opens the door to getting them to admit that 59 Democratic Senators are more than 41 Republicans and with that progressive policies still can win.

   As a matter of fact this maybe what is needed to give the Progressives a kick in the seat. For far too long we have been playing by the Republican's rules and it is time to say enough. First they told us that any Judges that Mr. Bush nominated had to have a yes or no vote and filibusters were not allowed. Then when the Senate turned Democratic the Republicans filibuster everything, saying that all bills had to have 60 votes to pass. I don't know which was worse, the arrogance of the Republicans or that the Democrats went along with it trying to pass everything with 60 votes. This meant that everything had to be watered down to get the more conservative Senators to sign on. As a result Progressives have been disappointed to see everything that they voted for perverted and Conservatives are against anything Democratic.

   What the Democrats need to do is to put an end to the filibuster and pass everything with a 50 plus one majority. This could end the need for courting the Conservative Senators and pass the Progressive policies that the Nation badly needs. We could even pass a single payer health care bill and a jobs bill that would safe the economy. What this Republican win could actually do is to propel the Democratic Party into big wins in 2010 and in 2012 we could see Ted Kennedy's Senate seat return to Democratic hands.



Great post Marty, I just hope that the Democrats have the guts to fight back.  I think that some times we are too civil and hope that reason will win out.  The problem is that reason rarely works on unreasonable people.  I am so afraid that if the Democrats don't fight back, they will look week and lose in Nov.  Please talk me down from my pessimism.
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You said it!  I'm all for having a good robust debate and plenty of time to read what is in a bill, but this garbage of blocking the democratic process is another thing.  It would be funny to see the likes of Limbaugh red face at all the progressive bills being passed.  I can just see Glenn Beck speechless at the Democratic success!

http://www.americaforpurchase.com/wp-content/uploads/Limbaugh_Bin_Laden_want_america_to_fail.jpg


That is the problem with the Republicans, they don't care about America.  All that they want is for the President to fail so that they can regain power.
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