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For years republicans have claimed that Reagan won the Cold War and ended Communism.  Okay, tell me just how he did that.




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For years republicans have claimed that Reagan won the Cold War and ended Communism.  Okay, tell me just how he did that.


The most important thing was he wasn't playing the PC game with the Soviets.  He let them know that the US wasn't going to back down and nothing was off limits.  The Soviets spent most of their time and money trying to fight Starwar.  President Reagan simply broke the Soviet bank.

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The most important thing was he wasn't playing the PC game with the Soviets.  He let them know that the US wasn't going to back down and nothing was off limits.  The Soviets spent most of their time and money trying to fight Starwar.  President Reagan simply broke the Soviet bank.


Starwars was a joke and the Russians knew it.  Carter did more to bring down the USSR.  It was Carter's missile deployment system by way of rail coast the Soviets far more than Reagan's imaginary starwars.  President Carter also signing the SALT II nuclear arms reduction treaty with the USSR.  Jimmy Carter was the one that started the sanctions against USSR causing them great financial hardship.  Jimmy Carter also funded the Freedom fighters in Afghanistan, causing too much pain and suffering for the Russian troops therefore sentiment in USSR turned against the government causing its collapse.

BOTH the sanctions and the Freedom fighters were CARTER programs, quickly adopted by Reagan and Reagan took all the credit for USSR's collapse!!!  Afghanistan had the greatest impact because it showed other nations that were trapped in the Russian stranglehold that they vulnerable, so other nations sought to break away from the USSR, so the Russians learned that they couldn't fight battles on all front so they chose to allow nations that weren't important to the USSR to break away. The nations that had vast oil reserves the Russians fought tooth and nail to keep them a part of the Soviet empire.

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Well said Jess, if Republicans want to give Reagan credit for this just because he was in office at the time it happened, then they need to give Bush credit for the things that have happened while he was in office, including 9-11......
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Well said Jess, if Republicans want to give Reagan credit for this just because he was in office at the time it happened, then they need to give Bush credit for the things that have happened while he was in office, including 9-11......


Thank you, but you know that Republicans aren't that honest.  They will take credit for every good thing even if it was the product of Democratic Presidents and blame those very Democrats for everything bad even if those bad things were the sole product of Republicans.
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Starwars was a joke and the Russians knew it.  Carter did more to bring down the USSR.  It was Carter's missile deployment system by way of rail coast the Soviets far more than Reagan's imaginary starwars.  President Carter also signing the SALT II nuclear arms reduction treaty with the USSR.  Jimmy Carter was the one that started the sanctions against USSR causing them great financial hardship.  Jimmy Carter also funded the Freedom fighters in Afghanistan, causing too much pain and suffering for the Russian troops therefore sentiment in USSR turned against the government causing its collapse.

BOTH the sanctions and the Freedom fighters were CARTER programs, quickly adopted by Reagan and Reagan took all the credit for USSR's collapse!!!  Afghanistan had the greatest impact because it showed other nations that were trapped in the Russian stranglehold that they vulnerable, so other nations sought to break away from the USSR, so the Russians learned that they couldn't fight battles on all front so they chose to allow nations that weren't important to the USSR to break away. The nations that had vast oil reserves the Russians fought tooth and nail to keep them a part of the Soviet empire.


It's pretty arrogant of Republicans to credit Reagan with the fall of the Soviet Union, the notion ignores every President since 1917 who worked in one way or another to bring down the Soviets.  It also ignores the fact that the CIA knew in the early 70s that the USSR was on the road to a collapse, which meant that Reagan's fantasy of arming space was only an excuse to give away more tax dollars to military contractors like GE.  Also they ignore Gorbachev's reforms and when he couldn't save the Soviet Union because of it's corruption, he dissolved the union.  Very little of these had anything to do with Reagan.
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The most important thing was he wasn't playing the PC game with the Soviets.  He let them know that the US wasn't going to back down and nothing was off limits.  The Soviets spent most of their time and money trying to fight Starwar.  President Reagan simply broke the Soviet bank.


Liberals just can't admit that Ronald Reagan was able to do what no Democrat could.

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Liberals just can't admit that Ronald Reagan was able to do what no Democrat could.


What was that?  Take us from a first world nation to a third world nation?  Before Reagan anyone had a chance at a good living but now good jobs are far and few.  President Obama has delayed us from entering another great depression, but unless we reverse the Reagan era voodoo economics it will only be a matter of time before we hit another GD.
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Starwars was a joke and the Russians knew it.  Carter did more to bring down the USSR.


Oh yeah, lets go back to the days of Carter.  Really, I'm glad that you like Carter so much because Obama is going to be another one term president like Carter.

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